active_ideas= disunited_government
focus = id = my_focus icon = GFX_goal_generic_major_war completion_reward = remove_idea = outdated_railways add_idea = modern_logistics Hoi4 Remove National Spirit
(Tags may vary by DLC/version; always use debug mode to confirm.) | Problem | Solution | |---------|----------| | remove_idea command not recognized | You are not in debug mode, or console is disabled. Use debug first. | | Spirit reappears next month | It’s maintained by a repeating event, national focus prerequisite, or scripted effect. Find and disable the source. | | Spirit tag not found | Tag may be from a mod or DLC. Check mod’s common/ideas/*.txt for correct spelling. | | Game crashes after save edit | Syntax error (missing space, bracket). Restore backup or delete active_ideas line carefully. | Summary Table of Methods | Method | Best For | Difficulty | Ironman Safe? | |--------|----------|------------|----------------| | Console ( remove_idea ) | Quick removal during gameplay | Easy | No | | Script (event/focus) | Modding or custom content | Medium | Yes (if mod is used) | | Save file editing | No console, but non-Ironman | Hard | No | | Debug + hover | Finding idea tags | Easy | No | Final Note Removing National Spirits is safe in most cases, but some are tied to scripted events (e.g., Chinese Warlord Cliques ). Removing them may break event chains. For standard penalties ( Great Depression , Disjointed Government ), remove_idea works perfectly. Find and disable the source
You can check if a spirit exists first:
if = limit = has_idea = strikes_ongoing remove_idea = strikes_ongoing | | Game crashes after save edit |
Use FROM , ROOT , or a specific country scope: